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Dwarkesh Patel

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Some thoughts on the Sutton interview

Some thoughts on the Sutton interview

Oct 04, 2025

I have a much better understanding of Sutton’s perspective now. I wanted to reflect on it a bit. (00:00:00) - The steelman (00:02:42) - TLDR of my current thoughts (00:03:22) - Imitation learning is c...

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Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead end

Richard Sutton – Father of RL thinks LLMs are a dead end

Sep 26, 2025

Richard Sutton is the father of reinforcement learning, winner of the 2024 Turing Award, and author of The Bitter Lesson. And he thinks LLMs are a dead end. After interviewing him, my steel man of Ric...

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Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

Sep 12, 2025

Sergey Levine, one of the world’s top robotics researchers and co-founder of Physical Intelligence, thinks we’re on the cusp of a “self-improvement flywheel” for general-purpose robots. His median est...

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How Hitler almost starved Britain – Sarah Paine

How Hitler almost starved Britain – Sarah Paine

Sep 05, 2025

In this lecture, military historian Sarah Paine explains how Britain used sea control, peripheral campaigns, and alliances to defeat Nazi Germany during WWII. She then applies this framework to today,...

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Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that — Jacob Kimmel

Evolution designed us to die fast; we can change that — Jacob Kimmel

Aug 21, 2025

Jacob Kimmel thinks he can find the transcription factors to reverse aging. We do a deep dive on why this might be plausible and why evolution hasn’t optimized for longevity. We also talk about why dr...

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China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

China is killing the US on energy. Does that mean they’ll win AGI? — Casey Handmer

Aug 15, 2025

How will we feed the 100s of GWs of extra energy demand that AI will create over the coming decade? On this episode, Casey Handmer (Caltech PhD, former NASA JPL, founder & CEO of Terraform Industries)...

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Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence — Lewis Bollard

Artificial meat is harder than artificial intelligence — Lewis Bollard

Aug 07, 2025

A deep dive with Lewis Bollard, who leads Open Philanthropy’s strategy for Farmed Animal Welfare, on the surprising economics of the meat industry. Why is factory farming so efficient? How can we make...

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Sarah Paine — How Imperial Japan defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

Sarah Paine — How Imperial Japan defeated Tsarist Russia & Qing China

Jul 25, 2025

After my last lecture series with Sarah Paine ended, I still had so many questions. I knew we’d only scratched the surface of Sarah’s scholarship, so I immediately invited her back for another series:...

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Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin became the most powerful dictator in history

Stephen Kotkin — How Stalin became the most powerful dictator in history

Jul 10, 2025

The Stephen Kotkin episode. Kotkin is arguably the world’s foremost expert on Joseph Stalin and has written a massive 2-volume biography on him (with a 3rd volume in the works). No other individual ha...

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Why I don’t think AGI is right around the corner

Why I don’t think AGI is right around the corner

Jul 03, 2025

I’ve had a lot of discussions on my podcast where we haggle out timelines to AGI. Some guests think it’s 20 years away - others 2 years. Here’s an audio version of where my thoughts stand as of June ...

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