The 2-Hour Secret: How Trump’s Team Talked to Russia

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The 2-Hour Secret: How Trump’s Team Talked to Russia

Michael Fortune

14 April 2026

On November 26, 2025, the world was treated to a fascinating glimpse of the high-stakes world of international diplomacy when Bloomberg released a transcript of a phone call that was never meant to be heard. This was no ordinary conversation; it was a two-hour dialogue between Steve Witkoff, President Trump’s special envoy, and Yuri Ushakov, a senior foreign policy advisor to Russian President Vladimir Putin.The contents of this call revealed a lot about the behind-the-scenes efforts aimed at ending the ongoing war in Ukraine. Witkoff provided Ushakov with strategic advice on how to present a proposed "20-point peace plan" to Trump, drawing parallels to the framework used in Gaza negotiations. Can you imagine the discussions they had? The call even suggested potential outcomes where Russia might gain control over areas like Donetsk, possibly coupled with an exchange of territories. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/conspiracy-theories-exploring-the-unseen--5194379/support.