Between The Madness - Episode 2 - When They Looked Too Late - The Story of Ryan Waller

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22 January 2026

On Christmas Day 2006, police in Phoenix, Arizona, entered a quiet home expecting a simple welfare check. Instead, they found 21-year-old Heather Quan deceased, and 18-year-old Ryan Waller barely alive, suffering from a gunshot wound that went unnoticed at first. What followed changed the course of multiple lives, reshaped an Arizona law, and left two families searching for understanding in the aftermath of unimaginable violence. A video version of this episode is available on YouTube and SpotifyHow to support:For extra perks including exclusive content, early release, and ad-free episodes -Go to - PatreonHow to connect:WebsiteInstagramFacebookTwitterTheme and Closing Track:Original compositions created for The Minds of Madness Please check out our sponsors and help support the podcast:Nutrafol - Start your hair growth journey with Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code MADNESSUncommon Goods -  To get 15% off your next gift, go to Uncommongoods.com/madnessGrow Therapy - Whatever challenges you’re facing, Grow Therapy is here to help. Visit GrowTherapy.com/MADNESS today to get started. Availability and coverage vary by state and insurance plan.Shopify - Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/madnessQuince - Upgrade your wardrobe with pieces made to last with Quince. Go to Quince.com/madness for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.Greenlight - Don’t wait to teach your kids real-world money skills; start your risk-free Greenlight trial today at Greenlight.com/MADNESSMarley Spoon - This new year, fast-track your way to eating well with Marley Spoon. Head to MarleySpoon.com/offer/MADNESS for 45% off your first order and free delivery.Editing:Aiden Wolf Sources:https://www.maricopacountyattorney.org/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=541https://caselaw.findlaw.com/az-court-of-appeals/1600718.htmlhttps://law.justia.com/cases/arizona/court-of-appeals-division-one/2014/1-ca-cr-12-0858.htmlhttps://law.justia.com/cases/arizona/court-of-appeals-division-one/2009/1-ca-cr-08-0457.htmlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c_lmx4LdNwhttps://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/1r/bills/sb1153s.pdfhttps://www.findagrave.com/memorial/228526929/ryan_thomas-wallerhttps://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/ryan-waller-case-prompts-law-change-in-arizonahttps://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/heathers-law-passes-after-tragic-phoenix-murder-6652176