CNN Podcasts
24 October 2025
The East Wing of the White House, and the 123 years of American history it embodied, is now reduced to rubble. This comes as the cost of the ballroom, and with it opportunities for donors to curry favor with the President rise. Perspective from former Trump campaign adviser David Urban, former senior adviser to President Obama David Axelrod, and CNN Presidential Historian Tim Naftali. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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