The Ringer
06 October 2025
Zach welcomes in John Hollinger for their annual look at which teams confuse them the most (1:58). Along the way, the pair discuss the Spurs (12:28), Celtics (17:19), Raptors (21:55), and Rockets (30:41). Which team do they agree on? And which team did Hollinger change Zach’s mind on? They also touch on the Mavericks (37:01), Pacers (52:01), Suns (57:18), some baseball talk, and a whole lot more. Host: Zach Lowe Guest: John Hollinger Producers: Mike Wargon, Jesse Aron, and Victoria Valencia Social: Keith Fujimoto The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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