Lawrence: We are clearly seeing madness pouring from the darkness of Donald Trump's mind

Lawrence O'Donnell, MS NOW

03 October 2025

Tonight on The Last Word: Trump Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick calls Jeffrey Epstein “the greatest blackmailer ever.” Also, early voting is underway as the government shutdown upends the Virginia governor’s race. And Donald Trump’s USAID cuts have devastating effects in Africa. Sen. Adam Schiff, Abigail Spanberger, and Nick Kristof join Lawrence O’Donnell. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.