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Dwarkesh Patel

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Paul Christiano — Preventing an AI takeover

Paul Christiano — Preventing an AI takeover

Oct 31, 2023

Paul Christiano is the world’s leading AI safety researcher. My full episode with him is out! We discuss: - Does he regret inventing RLHF, and is alignment necessarily dual-use? - Why he has relativel...

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Shane Legg (DeepMind Founder) — 2028 AGI, superhuman alignment, new architectures

Shane Legg (DeepMind Founder) — 2028 AGI, superhuman alignment, new architectures

Oct 26, 2023

I had a lot of fun chatting with Shane Legg - Founder and Chief AGI Scientist, Google DeepMind! We discuss: * Why he expects AGI around 2028 * How to align superhuman models * What new architectures n...

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Grant Sanderson (@3blue1brown) — Past, present, & future of mathematics

Grant Sanderson (@3blue1brown) — Past, present, & future of mathematics

Oct 12, 2023

I had a lot of fun chatting with Grant Sanderson (who runs the excellent 3Blue1Brown YouTube channel) about: - Whether advanced math requires AGI - What careers should mathematically talented students...

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Sarah C. M. Paine — Why dictators keep making the same fatal mistake

Sarah C. M. Paine — Why dictators keep making the same fatal mistake

Oct 04, 2023

I learned so much from Sarah Paine, Professor of History and Strategy at the Naval War College. We discuss: - how continental vs maritime powers think and how this explains Xi & Putin's decisions - ho...

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Dario Amodei (Anthropic CEO) — The hidden pattern behind every AI breakthrough

Dario Amodei (Anthropic CEO) — The hidden pattern behind every AI breakthrough

Aug 08, 2023

Here is my conversation with Dario Amodei, CEO of Anthropic. Dario is hilarious and has fascinating takes on what these models are doing, why they scale so well, and what it will take to align them. W...

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Andy Matuschak — The reason most learning tools fail

Andy Matuschak — The reason most learning tools fail

Jul 12, 2023

A few weeks ago, I sat beside Andy Matuschak to record how he reads a textbook. Even though my own job is to learn things, I was shocked with how much more intense, painstaking, and effective his lear...

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Carl Shulman (Pt 2) — AI Takeover, bio & cyber attacks, detecting deception, & humanity's far future

Carl Shulman (Pt 2) — AI Takeover, bio & cyber attacks, detecting deception, & humanity's far future

Jun 26, 2023

The second half of my 7 hour conversation with Carl Shulman is out! My favorite part! And the one that had the biggest impact on my worldview. Here, Carl lays out how an AI takeover might happen: * AI...

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Carl Shulman (Pt 1) — Intelligence explosion, primate evolution, robot doublings, & alignment

Carl Shulman (Pt 1) — Intelligence explosion, primate evolution, robot doublings, & alignment

Jun 14, 2023

In terms of the depth and range of topics, this episode is the best I’ve done. No part of my worldview is the same after talking with Carl Shulman. He's the most interesting intellectual you've never ...

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Richard Rhodes — The making of the atomic bomb

Richard Rhodes — The making of the atomic bomb

May 23, 2023

It was a tremendous honor & pleasure to interview Richard Rhodes, Pulitzer Prize winning author of The Making of the Atomic Bomb We discuss - similarities between AI progress & Manhattan Project (deve...

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Eliezer Yudkowsky — Why AI will kill us, aligning LLMs, nature of intelligence, SciFi, & rationality

Eliezer Yudkowsky — Why AI will kill us, aligning LLMs, nature of intelligence, SciFi, & rationality

Apr 06, 2023

For 4 hours, I tried to come up reasons for why AI might not kill us all, and Eliezer Yudkowsky explained why I was wrong. We also discuss his call to halt AI, why LLMs make alignment harder, what it ...

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